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@ ObjectiveBob the case against the God of Christianity is simple. not.
@ SetOfAllReals not really a worthy opponent. Hitchens made minced meat of Wilson. and Wilson is an idiot to claim that atheists have not responded to a large number of claims Christian apologetics. who is blind to reason, and this is not the quality of a worthy opponent. and deserves respect. just another brainwashed fool.
@ TheShinema there is nothing good about religion, and we must finish him off, not better. No matter how you try to smell the ****, it sucks.
@ Here ILikeLincolnLogs here! Could it been the case on blogs and youtube! Even if I’m completely in the field of Hitchen, Wilson is a worthy opponent and I have great respect for him.
For me, religion can be bad in many ways, and I admit that there are religious wars, fanaticism, cults, murder, blood sacrifices, etc. but I know there are good things about religion. . . I hate when people abuse religion, its sad but true. . . I hope we can improve the religion. . .
I agree. The cause of human misery is often human nature. But I see religion as a catalyst, a moral defect, which allows people to resort to cynical worst of human nature and leads to large groups of people are inherently good to do (or support) is bad.
What immature by stating that no Postive proof required by many Christians.
Make a claim against the God of Christianity, and I will show you:)
has meaning. His blind all the progress of developing a good sense. I hate being the bearer of bad news, but this life will never have the fullfillment that aims to provide. The world is set up to divert attention from the only reality that has a lasting impact on your life. YES! You guessed it! Only by the grace of God through the cross of Jesus Christ can bring about lasting peace in this life and in the other. Yes, and the next! Jesus is life. (John 14:6)
Well, a lot of response from atheists here. Do you know that Jesus is the truth? It is very sad. Mr. Wilson was merely points out that, without God, the God of the Bible, we can make reasonable claims about the morality or the object in the universe. Why are we here? Why did not exist at all? His answer is that everything that exists does so in a completely random and impersonal, so there is nothing in this life or in death safer.
Honestly, the debate can not do better than that. Two very kind and intelligent men, with great respect for each other, you hear the other side of the story and react accordingly. You can not find this kind of politeness.
I am a Christian and I love Hitchens, in my view, religion is not the problem, its human nature.
I’ve seen many discussions between Wilson and Hitchens and hope to see the documentary film sur.Personnellement I do not think the religious (so to speak) a leg to stand on if things like truth, reason, rationality and logic are what cher.Même that if I am an atheist, I am very happy to say that true respect for Wilson to be a true believer, unlike many charlitans there! That said, I also believe that their beliefs are completely irrational and soundly based on illusion.
Christian Apologetics is an oxymoron. No “Moron” in the last sentence.
Incidentally, on homosexuality and Craig, Craig actually wrote in his book “real answers”, one of the best indictments of the treatment of homosexuals by “Christians” I’ve seen.
Sorry to be rude. YouTube highlights my darker side.
I have no animosity against Christians in particular, but I think the whole thing is based on ad hoc rationalization of apology. Believers begin its alleged religious and intellectual energy is then devoted to “defending the faith” – which supports these preconceptions. The IMO, which is the opposite of how a free spirit who fonctionner.Je’m sure there are exceptions, but I’ve come across them.
What am I doing here, defending a thesis? YouTube Is for the love of Christ! Enjoy life.
In fact, that’s exactly what he would say to Mr. Hitchens on these issues. For who better than Hitchens debate to assess the strengths and weaknesses of Wilson? “I find it curious that you think is the exact opposite of what Hitchens says in his article. It makes me think that this opinion is based on nothing but prejudice against Christianity and its apologistes.Bien sure that it can express a opinion, but if I consider it unfair and badly thought, I can face too.
Hitchens also seems to have a great respect for Dinesh D’Souza, who is so confusing to me. . . I gave my opinion (which I thought was sorta the point of these comment boards), unless you think it is better for me to mute my own conclusions and simply call on Mr. Hitchens on these issues?
Then you should also know that, as Hitchens himself says in an article in Slate: “Wilson is not one of those Christians who mumble apologetically evasive about how some of the stories of the Bible are really” metaphors “.. . Do not waffle when asked why God allows so much evil and suffering. “I do not know, but prefer a little more than Hitchens when assessing the abilities discussed Wilson / lacunes.Il, after all, rival of many debates.
There is no debate, but I’ve seen before.
Have you seen the movie??
Well said. Apologists many slippery.
I totally agree with you, stupid. Wilson made a tragic mistake here, somehow the murder of their arguments only caractère.Les a Christian is not the case that can be answered by an atheist is this kind of argument for which there is no response. Make statements like “I could not prove the existence of God because it is like asking a car to prove the existence of Henry Ford.” Now that is less than détonnant.Au Hitchen Challenge theist response is great.
That’s exactly what it is. They can not fight on flat ground, so to flee to the mountains and complain when they do not understand.